Jeffrey Veen

Jimmy Wales: Steak Knives and Human Knowledge

I heard Jimmy Wales, the founder of Wikipedia, speak recently as part of the Long Now Foundation's seminar series. He was an engaging and impassioned speaker and I recommend hearing him talk about his goal of making all of humankind's knowledge accessible around the world.

I found Wales particularly interesting as he put to rest Wikipedia's notoriety as a prototypical Web 2.0 application, especially when people assume that the moniker Web 2.0 refers to a set of technologies. There are virtually no technical innovations, he explained, as most of the underlying pieces were invented over a decade ago: Ward Cunningnam invented the wiki over 10 years ago, for example.

Rather, Wikipedia is a social innovation and Wales used restaurant design as a metaphor. Your new dining establishment intends to sell steaks, so therefore you'll need to provide sharp knives to your customers. Knives are also weapons and people could stab one another with them, so rather than booths and tables, you'd better lock your customers in individual cells to prevent that behavior.

Absurd, of course. Society has built up a collective set of agreements to ensure this sort of thing doesn't occur. Community software, however, often resorts to those sort of draconian constraints to require or forbid specific activity.

The success of Wikipedia can be traced back to exploiting the community trust, and backing it by social norms that have emerged as the site has grown and evolved. But more interesting is the attenuation that the community has developed for these emergent patterns and the methods they use to build on them.

Take the issue of deleting articles. It would be relatively easy to develop a system of user voting that could automate the weeding and pruning across the vast body of content. Instead, Wikipedia offers an area for debate that itself an editable article; users can make their case as a bulleted list on a wiki page until an admin deems the issue resolved for now. Wales admits it is a "messy" approach, and one that is straining under scale. But it's also the way the real world tends to work - people come to conclusions by talking to each other and working through issues.

These patterns of community design also repeat. In an almost off-hand comment, Wales mentioned that the Hungarian language group had just had to ban its first contributor, "which typically happens when the community has generated about 10,000-15,000 articles." People in communities behave in unexpected ways, but they do so in regular and understood intervals.

Not surprisingly, Wales is taking this learning and bringing it to the commercial world. His Wikia project is an attempt to leverage these community patterns into the realms of online personals or fan-generated content for media properties. It will be interesting to see if all this applies when the content doesn't have the same noble goal of an encyclopedia for the world.

There is a good detailed summary on the O'Reilly Radar blog, and a podcast of the speech at Longnow.org.


This entry was written by Jeffrey Veen and posted 19 April 2006 at 4:27 PM. It was filed under Technology. | View blog reactions

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1. On 20 April 2006 at 8:49 PM Ian Muir wrote:

This post definitely resonates with me. I actually work closely with the marketing department at my company and this is a concept they just don't understand.

They look at sites like Wikipedia, MySpace, Flickr, and all of the other "Web 2.0" sites and assume that it's the technology that makes them popular. They write a bunch of marketing material full of buzzwords and wonder why people don't flock to our site.

The funniest thing is that most of these marketing people have never even visited these sites. I sat down with one of the marketing people and showed her how Flickr worked and she was amazed. Not by the tagging or ajax flashiness, but by the fact that she instantly realized that she could share pictures of her kids with her extended family. Those personal connections that people make are what make good applications great, if only a few people people understood what you're trying to say.

2. On 5 May 2006 at 5:29 PM Lexi Pratama wrote:

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3. On 9 May 2006 at 6:52 AM Wadim wrote:

This very good idea IMHO :)

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